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Witness History

The Pergau Dam Affair

Witness History

BBC

History, Personal Journals, Society & Culture

4.51.6K Ratings

🗓️ 18 October 2018

⏱️ 9 minutes

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Summary

In October 1993 news broke about an arms deal with Malaysia that led to the biggest development aid scandal in British history. It became known as the Pergau Dam Affair. Tim Mansel has been speaking to Tim Lankester, a British civil servant, who found himself caught up in the aid deal.

Photo: Roger Briottet, director of the World Development Movement, celebrates with supporters after their High Court victory. The organisation had challenged the right of Foreign Secretary Douglas Hurd to authorise £234 million in aid for the Pergau Dam Project. Credit: PA News/Sean Dempsey.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Just before this BBC podcast gets underway, here's something you may not know.

0:04.7

My name's Linda Davies and I Commission Podcasts for BBC Sounds.

0:08.5

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0:18.0

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0:24.6

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0:29.7

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0:36.0

You're listening to the Witness History Podcast from the BBC World Service with me, Tim Mansell.

0:42.0

Today we're going back to October 1993 and the

0:46.3

publication of a report that led to the biggest development aid scandal in British

0:51.4

history. This is the aid and arms deal that became known as the

0:56.0

Pergau Dam affair. A report from the National Audit Office, Parliament's

1:00.7

financial watchdog has accused the Foreign Secretary Douglas

1:04.0

heard of wasting 56 million pounds of public money on British aid for a

1:08.4

Malaysian power station. The report reveals that a senior civil servant at the Overseas Development Agency

1:14.3

analysed the project and concluded it was a very bad buy.

1:18.6

I'm Tim Lancaster.

1:20.4

I was the Permanent Secretary of the overseas development administration which at the time

1:26.0

was responsible for British aid.

1:28.6

Now we've just heard that BBC report that says a senior civil servant described this as a bad buy.

1:35.6

That was the BBC's words.

1:36.6

Was that you?

1:37.6

That was me.

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