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and conditions. It is four minutes after 10. And the first message of the day says, bring back Suella Braverman.

I hope you've missed me as much as I have missed you.

And I derive no pleasure whatsoever from returning during a period of such upset and turmoil.

And once again, we find ourselves deriving absolutely no pleasure from having been among the tiny, perhaps, minority of people who fear that this sort of thing was on

the horizon. I think of all the shows that we've dedicated to what the end game would be, or where

the kind of rhetoric deployed by prominent public figures in the media and indeed in politics,

where it would lead. And the reason why we know where it would lead on this program is because we do, perhaps not as much as we used to, but we do talk to people who would be adjacent to the sort of characters that we saw this weekend trying to burn down hotels containing asylum seekers, setting fire to libraries, looting shops, attacking police officers,

launching themselves at individuals who looked different from them with venomous fury.

We have spoken to some of these people over the years, perhaps not the people who would actually

pull on

a balaclava helmet and go out to terrorise. A community in the case of Southport already reeling

from the grim murders of three little girls, one of whom, of course, was the daughter of

immigrants. That's something I'm surprised to see has been somewhat overlooked in an awful lot of

the coverage.

You have the son of people born elsewhere embarking upon a murderous frenzy and one of his victims is the daughter of people born elsewhere, but the problem apparently is people born

elsewhere. Perhaps we can riddle that one a little bit later.

I'm going to talk to you, I think, first, about a few of the phone calls we've taken over the years because I've been on a journey.

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