Welcome to Words Matter with Katie Barlow and Joe Lockhart.

Welcome to Words Matter, I'm Katie Barlow.

Our goal is to promote objective reality.

As a wise man once said, everyone is entitled to their own opinion, not their own facts.

Have power and words have consequences.

All right, so Joe, we were talking about before we started recording whether we were wrapping

the week or the year, and either way, both just ended in the impeachment of the 45th President

of the United States, only the third chief executive in American history to be impeached.

While as it stands out, it looks like he won't be removed from office, what do you think that

means for him and his legacy? Well, the week in a lot of ways encapsled the year.

I mean, this was a year of controversy, of investigation.

Nothing new for Donald Trump. He's faced this since his first day of office,

Democrats and Republicans will continue to argue over who's fault that is.

But it's not particularly surprising that at the end of the year, the President

finds himself impeached, how it all happened is a little bit surprising.

We started sitting down in March of this year, and I would say we spent 60 to 70

percent of our time talking about Bob Mueller and Russia collusion and obstruction of justice.

And then the world changed on a Friday night when Adam and Shafe out of nowhere

held a very quick press conference to say that there was a major story developing,

and it was about a whistleblower. And over the next month or so,

the news came out about Ukraine and the call and the scheme to extort Ukraine.

And then things moved faster than really I've ever seen anything in politics go.

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