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Zach Garris. Zach has been on the program before he serves as the pastor of Bryce Avenue

Presbyterian Church in White Rock, New Mexico and he is the author of masculine Christianity and honor thy fathers recovering the

anti-feminist theology of the reformers. I actually saw Zach the cover for this today

or yesterday on new Christendom Press. It looks

pretty good. So when does that come out? June sometime. I know the guy said it will be available at the conference in Ogden, Utah.

Yeah. But I don't know when it will be available online, but I assume sometime in the month of June.

Yeah the only bone I have to pick is it says

endorsements from this is Foster,

but Stephen Wolf, CR Wiley and I'm like I'm pretty sure that I read it endorsed this. So, uh, we'll see.

Well, yeah, I assume it will be somewhere in the book or online they'll use your I may not have made the cut it's okay

Zach so anyway no this is really good and you know we could talk about so many things but I saw an article that you

put out there recently in American reformer called petitioning the

magistrate I remember this is kind of an old issue isn't it or like it's not it's not a hot issue right

this second you're responding to something that already happened now of course

David Gordon I guess is who you're responding to and he wrote an article last month but like

correct me if I'm wrong wasn't this issue like last year was it this a big deal?

Yes that's correct well actually you've kind of had two years in a row where the PCA has

sent up a petition to the civil government so you had abortion in 2022 and then this petition 2023.

So the General Assembly, June of last year,

the PCA General Assembly passed the overture to petition the civil government, the magistrate,

on transgender surgeries, especially on minors. So it's not limited to minors. on the letter was written, I think it came out early this year and 2024.

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