They knew bringing cell phones was a no-no because you could be tracked by the police,

GPS, all of those things.

So they didn't have cell phones with them.

Because we had opined about during this investigation, something called geo-fencing.

And a heavy-duty technology, the FBI are experts at it, where they can pull up every

electronic device being used in a specific area at a specific time. And voila, if the perpetrators

had their cell phones and they were using them, they would have them, right? They would have their phones being on at the specific time of the kidnapping.

But they were sophisticated enough not to bring their cell phones.

You know, much like Brian Koberger, I know most of you folks listening, watching,

understood the Brian Coburger case that when he drove to Moscow, Idaho,

from his campus, he turned his cell phone off.

Because when a cell phone is turned off, you cannot track it.

The police cannot track the GPS. But then when the dirty deeds were done, at some point he turned it back on. And it was back on when he returned back to

the crime scene early that morning. So had that case gone to trial, that would have been a huge

piece of circumstantial evidence. Like, why did he

turn his cell phone off en route to Moscow, Idaho, and then turn it on back to his campus? And when he

returned to the crime scene, why did he turn it back on? Because he wasn't worried about being

tracked anymore. The dirty deed was done, Mike.

Yeah, that is a great case to talk about geofencing because it appeared from video from his

campus housing area that as his car is leaving Washington, the cell phone's going off.

And later on, about an hour and a half later, he's seen going back to campus, caught on security camera, and it's going back on.

So it really frames the before and after.

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