The Patrick Madrid Show: October 15, 2024 - Hour 2
The Patrick Madrid Show
Relevant Radio
4.8 • 590 Ratings
🗓️ 15 October 2024
⏱️ 51 minutes
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Summary
Patrick takes an unflinching look at a sensitive issue: the fate of souls who leave the Catholic Church. He discusses the grave implications of walking away from the faith, as explained by Catholic teaching. He dives into why the Catholic Church believes it's the true path to salvation, touches on scripture, and the necessity of baptism and the Eucharist. For those on a similar journey, he recommends “Lumen Gentium” by Pope Paul VI, and insightful reads like "Why Be Catholic?" and "Surprised by Truth."
- Will - I am considering converting to the Catholic Church. You said that someone who left the Catholic Church wouldn't go to heaven. Does that mean that only Catholics go to heaven? (00:32)
- James - My mom left the Catholic Church when I was young and my aunt left the convent, and I don't think they are going to hell. I want to reassure the listeners that their loved ones are in heaven. (20:35)
- Kathy - I was offended by you when you said I wouldn't go to heaven if I wasn’t Catholic. Now, I am in RCIA and want to thank you for saying it the way you did. (38:33)
- Melissa - I left the Church but came back. Had I stayed in the Protestant Church, I would have not been saved because I was living a bad life without boundaries. (42:20)
- Steve - I agree that the Catholic Church is the visible Church. I think that there is more space for people than you are giving to these people. I think there should be more mercy. (45:36)
- Herbert - I am 90 years old, and I am hurting. I don't understand how people can love Jesus. (47:35)
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | Compelling insights, unpredictable conversations, |
| 0:12.0 | encouragement for your day. |
| 0:14.2 | It's the Patrick Madrid show on Relevant Radio. |
| 0:19.5 | Okay, we are back, and this is our two. |
| 0:22.0 | It'll go by quickly. |
| 0:23.0 | So please feel free. |
| 0:24.3 | Call me at 888-914-9149-49. |
| 0:29.1 | And emails go to Patrick at Relevantradio.com. |
| 0:31.9 | All right, so Will and Jacksonville, thank you for holding over the break. |
| 0:34.7 | We didn't have time to really dig into your question before the break. |
| 0:38.8 | So do you want to take it from the top so everybody who's just tuning in right now will know what you're asking about? |
| 0:46.2 | Yes. The show that I was listening to you, I believe it was yesterday. |
| 0:53.6 | A lady had called in. Her husband had died. He was a lifelong Catholic. And I'm not sure |
| 1:00.5 | about the time, a year, a month, whatever. He decided to convert from Catholicism to a non-denominational |
| 1:07.5 | church. And she was concerned that he was not going to go to heaven because of that. |
| 1:14.2 | And I believe you said that he was not. Yeah. The way I put it, if I recall correctly, is that anybody |
| 1:22.1 | who dies in the state of mortal sin, unrepentant, will go to hell. And that those who leave the Catholic Church, |
| 1:30.3 | knowingly, I'm not talking about children whose parents leave and they take them with them, |
| 1:34.6 | but somebody who knowingly walks away from the Catholic Church. And as I recall, her husband, |
| 1:39.7 | she said, had received all of his sacraments. And he left. So the simple answer to the question |
| 1:46.9 | without knowing the person's state of mind or his heart, nobody can know those things except |
| 1:51.4 | God. But just the act itself of walking away from the Catholic Church is a serious sin. |
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