The Patrick Madrid Show: December 19, 2022 - Hour 3
The Patrick Madrid Show
Relevant Radio
4.8 • 587 Ratings
🗓️ 19 December 2022
⏱️ 49 minutes
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Summary
Patrick answers listener questions about vows of obedience, how would Joseph divorcing Mary protect her, how can we tell when Jesus is speaking literally or metaphorically, is Frank Pavone still a deacon, and is it okay to distance yourself from abusive family members
- Father John - What do you think the difference is between a vow of obedience by religious order priest and a promise of obedience by a diocesan priest?
- Scott - How would Joseph divorcing Mary protect her?
- Juliet - Why did the prophet say His name would be Emanuel but we call him Jesus?
- Matt - How do you know when Jesus is speaking literally or metaphorically?
- Rhianna - My husband's family is verbally abusive. Is it okay for me to distance myself from them?
- Mike - Is Frank Pavone still a deacon?
- Sylvia - A friend left the Catholic Church for the Apostolic Pentecostal religion. How can I bring them back?
- Maria – Where does a baby go if they died unbaptized?
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | compelling insights unpredictable conversations |
| 0:12.0 | encouragement for your day it's the patrick madrid show on relevant radio |
| 0:17.5 | all right longer let's do it yes let's do it of 88 818 914 9149 888 9149 888 9149 |
| 0:29.9 | is number to call please give me a call let's go to Father John in Chicago hello |
| 0:36.1 | father John hello Patrick God bless you, and I just |
| 0:41.2 | wanted to ask, as the diocese increased, I have been canceled, and I would like to ask you, |
| 0:48.3 | what do you think the difference is between a vow of obedience that a religious takes and what a promise of obedience is that a diocesan priest or a secular priest takes to his bishop. |
| 1:01.8 | Because I see your analogy with Padre Pio, with the last caller, to, you know, make us want to ask that question. |
| 1:12.2 | And as a canceled priest and as a member of the coalition for canceled priests, I would |
| 1:16.1 | like to hear your thoughts. |
| 1:17.9 | Well, I can only say what I believe the church teaches on this issue, and that is that |
| 1:23.1 | religious, as you know, they take vows when they enter into religious life or when they make |
| 1:30.4 | their final vows, let's say, and the vows of poverty, chastity, and obedience bind them for life |
| 1:37.7 | to those promises, including obedience to their religious superiors. Diocese and priests, as you |
| 1:43.9 | know, do not take vows. They're not religious, |
| 1:46.9 | as you know, and yet the priest makes a formal promise of obedience to his bishop. So there's a |
| 1:54.3 | similarity there to the vow, but it's not, you know, canonically speaking the same as a vow. But I would |
| 2:00.1 | say in the case of a parish priest, it has similar force. |
| 2:04.5 | So that's my thought in a nutshell. |
| 2:07.8 | No, and I do appreciate that, and I would say on a lot of topics, that's certainly true. |
| 2:13.7 | But I think that people have to realize that a diocesan priest, when I was ordained 15 years ago, |
| 2:19.7 | I took a promise to be a co-worker with the bishop, okay, not to be a subservient, all right, |
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