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It's the Patrick Madrid Show on Relevant Radio.

Hey, by the way, you've heard a couple lively conversations thus far today with a couple atheists.

I'm glad they called in.

Always welcome here, that's for sure.

If you're thinking, how do I, like, follow up on that?

How do I learn more?

Let me give you a few book recommendations that will be helpful to you.

One is by a noted philosopher,

who himself used to be in hardcore atheists, he converted from atheism to the Catholic faith. His name is

Edward Faser. Faser is spelled F-E-S-E-R. It looks like Fesser, but it's Faser, as in set your phasers on stun. And he is a professor of

philosophy at Pasadena City College in Southern California. He's written widely on the topic.

You can check out his blog. He's got a very, very well-stocked blog on many different topics, including his

writings on atheism. So if you want to get free stuff, you can go to Ed Faser's blog and check that out.

He's written a book called The Last Superstition, and that's a title referencing the last superstition

of atheism, which is a superstition.

And so it's a book-length refutation of all the standard arguments that are raised.

And that's worth your time to read, The Last Superstition by Edward Faser.

Also, I would recommend Dr. Peter Crafts and Father Ron DeSeli's book called Handbook of Catholic Apologetics.

The first, roughly, probably a good third of the book is devoted to taking into account atheist arguments on moral topics, biblical topics, what have you, philosophical, such as their arguments are. And that book

will be very helpful to you because all of the major atheist arguments and many of the minor ones

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