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The Leader’s Cut with Preston Morrison

The Pathway to Heart Transformation (with Megan Fate Marshman)

The Leader’s Cut with Preston Morrison

Preston Morrison

Business, Religion & Spirituality, Religion & Spirituality:christianity, Christianity

5.0537 Ratings

🗓️ 12 June 2025

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

Are you longing for true change, but constantly feel stuck or confused about how to get there? Do you wonder why God seems distant in certain seasons? This week on The Leader's Cut, Preston Morrison is joined by Megan Fate Marshman for a profound conversation on how God truly changes you. We often seek transformation on the mountaintop, but Preston and Megan reveal the surprising truth: God's most powerful work often happens in the valleys, in moments of "desolation," and even in the times you don’t expect it. This episode offers a radical reframing of how the Spirit works to reshape your heart, revealing His kindness — even in the "cutting out" process. You’ll learn: Why chasing feelings can lead you away from God, & how to embrace His presence in every season. The profound power of "consolation" and "desolation" in reorienting your desires. How God uses your "mess" and "rough edges" as a divine opportunity for deeper transformation. The crucial practice of opening your heart to God. Why the solution to your shame isn't hiding, but bravely exposing your whole self to His perfect love. If you've ever felt like something was "wrong" with you during a dry spiritual season, or struggled to bridge the gap between your behavior and your heart's desires, this episode is for you. Learn to run towards God's refining work, not away from it, and step into the radiant life He designed for YOU!

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0:00.0

I went back to school four years ago.

0:02.0

I said, how do we change?

0:04.0

And I was shocked at what I found.

0:06.0

How have you changed?

0:07.0

What's your proactive approach to respond to that movement of God in you?

0:12.0

We think this kind of change happens on the mountaintop.

0:16.0

And oftentimes, some of the most important changes in my heart have happened when the spirit does it perfectly he knows

0:23.1

what he's doing he's leading the dance he's the great physician and he wants to cut things out he wants to

0:28.3

take the mess and deal with it and love and he does it well but it doesn't always feel good and if

0:34.0

you're searching for a feeling and you've run away from the church because the

0:37.8

feeling's no longer there, I'd say, yeah, run away from that faith and come back to God.

0:42.5

What do you see happening in the church right now?

0:48.3

What's up, everybody? Welcome to the Leaders Cut. As you can see, we got a great friend

0:52.8

in the house today, the beloved Megan Faye Marshman, author of Relax, Savage Book. If you haven't gotten it, you know I don't push books, just to push books. Savage human being, savage book. I know she wouldn't even bring it up, but I'm telling you right now, you saw me give it away. You saw me give a good number of copies away.

1:15.5

If you haven't read it yet, make sure you read it. Because by the end of this, you're going to see Megan's really, really special. We're going to have a really special conversation today. So let's pray

1:21.2

real quick and we'll jump right in to this heart conversation. Holy Spirit, thank you so much

1:26.4

for friends. Thank you for your family.

1:30.9

Thank you for your presence in our lives. Thank you for what you're doing on the earth.

1:36.3

We pray that you'd be pleased with this conversation. And Lord, I'll speak for myself. I pray you

1:42.1

would take out the knife of heaven, the word of God, and cut all over my flesh in this conversation.

1:48.1

If there's anything in me that's not pleasing to you, I pray you to address it.

1:52.3

If there's anything that is unpleasing to you in any of my brothers and sisters, I pray that you would sweetly and lovingly, as they lay on the operating table of heaven,

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