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The Michael Steele Podcast

The Path To Partisanship with guest Steve Kornacki

The Michael Steele Podcast

The Bulwark

Politics, Government, History, News

4.83.1K Ratings

🗓️ 11 January 2019

⏱️ 63 minutes

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Summary

Shutdown, socialism, and shouting over the border wall: How did we get here? Michael talks with Steve Kornacki about the partisan history of Washington in the last generation. Steve Kornacki is a National Political Correspondent for NBC News and MSNBC. His new book is The Red and the Blue: The 1990s and the Birth of Political Tribalism.

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0:00.0

What up, what up, what up? Happy New Year, everybody. Yes, it's the man of steel. That's

0:17.4

right, Michael Steele. I'm back in the house in 2019. And boy, has the years started off

0:23.9

with some fireworks and some fun. Now, before we get into the fun and the meat of the show,

0:30.7

I got to settle up on a little business. You know you can find this on Apple Podcast,

0:34.8

Ditcher, Tune In, wherever you can get your podcasts on. That's where you're going to

0:39.7

find me. And certainly you can find me on Twitter at Michael Steele. Well, we've got

0:46.3

the wall. We've got shut down. We've got muller. We've got Maniford. And our whole hell

0:51.9

of a lot more progressive taxation for God's sake. Where did that come from? It's there.

0:57.6

It's on the table now. And we got history because history is oftentimes a prelude, a prologue

1:08.3

to the experience you are having currently. And I can't think of anyone better to help

1:13.9

us give some context to these big issues that we're rolling around with today than a good

1:19.8

buddy of mine. Colleague over at MSNBC, the one and only Steve Cornackie. He is the National

1:27.0

Political Correspondent for NBC News and MSNBC. Folks, he's got this kick ass book out.

1:34.7

You got to pick it up. If you have any inkling of politics running through your veins or

1:40.6

interest in political history, if you want to understand the space we're in right now,

1:46.4

he sets out in his new book, The History of How We Got Here. It's The Red and the Blue,

1:52.5

the 1990s and the birth of political tribalism. It's the one and only Steve Cornackie. Welcome

1:58.2

to the Man of Steele, man. Well, I hope I can live up to that introduction. That was

2:02.8

really generous of you. Thank you. Man, I'm a huge fan of yours. Have been for a long

2:07.6

time and this book, I've got Mark's pages, I've got tabs. I'm serious, man. This book

2:18.2

folks is a history lesson. If you really want to get your fingers into the meat of the environment

2:26.0

we're living in today and how it all began, so I thought it would be a lot of fun, Steve.

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