The Path to Invading Taiwan: China’s PSYOP Long Game

Change Agents with Andy Stumpf

IRONCLAD

Society & Culture

4.9 • 648 Ratings

🗓️ 17 September 2025

⏱️ 76 minutes

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On today’s episode, Andy sits down with Winston Sterzel and Matthew Tye, creators and hosts of The China Show and two of the most well-known foreign commentators on modern China. Winston and Matthew both lived in China for over a decade, where they documented daily life, culture, and politics through their popular YouTube channels before turning their focus to uncovering how the Chinese Communist Party operates at home and abroad. Together, they break down the ways the CCP uses propaganda, censorship, and state narratives to influence its citizens and shape global perception, including how China’s growing hostility toward the United States fuels nationalism at home and poses new challenges and threats abroad. To watch the China Show, visit http://youtube.com/@thechinashow and their secret show on Patreon - http://patreon.com/advpodcasts Change Agents is an IRONCLAD Original Subscribe on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/change-agents-with-andy-stumpf/id1677415740 Subscribe on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3SKmtN55V2AGbzHDo34DHI?si=5aefbba9abc844ed Sponsors Firecracker Farm Use code IRONCLAD to get 15% off your first order at https://firecracker.farm/ AmmoSquared Visit https://ammosquared.com/ today for a special offer and keep yourself fully stocked. With over 100,000 members and thousands of 5-star ratings, Your readiness is their mission. TacPack Visit http://www.TacPack.com and use code IRONCLAD at checkout to get a free $70 tactical gift Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	The party is taking away more and more freedoms every day from the Chinese people, cracking
0:06.0	down more and more on everything in Chinese people's lives, and at the same time lying
0:11.8	and coercing and cheating and hacking and stealing.
0:15.6	War time scenario plans like hacking infrastructure and hacking the water supply and electric
0:19.9	grids and all that kind of stuff,
0:25.8	all laid out so that the West, when push comes to shove, when we do end up in a situation where there is conflict with China, they have so many tools to be able to coerce the West into
0:31.0	stopping.
0:46.4	Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to change agents, an Iron Cloud original presented by our friends over at Firecracker Farm.
0:57.6	Today we're going to be talking about China, their global influence, what the reality is like, life in China, specifically for people from the West, access to information,
1:05.1	propaganda, how they control information and an extension of that, their society. My guest today are Matthew Tai and Winston Sturzel. They host a show on YouTube called The China Show,
1:10.2	based on their own experience firsthand living in
1:13.5	China. Matthew is an American YouTuber, a political commentator and a travel vlogger. He is also a
1:18.6	commentator on political and social issues in China. Winston is a South African vlogger who lived in
1:24.7	Shenzhen and Guangdong China for 14 years. He moved to China in
1:29.2	2006 after attending a business meeting in Shenzhen the previous year. Between the two of them,
1:35.1	I believe there are 24 years of firsthand experience living in China. They both have moved out of
1:40.7	China with their wives and families, both of which were Chinese citizens.
1:45.0	Let's get into the show.
1:55.3	You know, the best start, honestly, probably for the audience, is you guys need to introduce
1:58.8	yourself and explain how the hell you met. How did a african dude from philadelphia just you know casually cross
2:04.9	paths in you know china just down the road sure fire away yeah well should we uh get going then on our
2:14.3	story i'll tell you well it's an interesting story. I went to China on a
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