If my peace is connected to a person who isn't the prince of peace, yeah, that's right. Peace will never be my consistent companion. Totally. So it's that place where the battle is not against flesh and blood. Remember, it's not physical, it's not relational. Whatever that circumstance was, that's not your problem. It's the spiritual entities that we said yes to in the midst of the trauma. So it's kind of that thing where I say, it's not the circumstance. It's not the three-foot fall you took in the kitchen. It's the kitchen knife you grabbed on the way down that laid your hand open. It's not the circumstance of the stuff you went through with your friend. It's the stuff you started to take on as an entitlement to the angry. Great way to say. It's the stuff where you said, well, now I've got to be afraid, or now I've got to get into bitterness, hatred, I've got to get into gossip, I've got to, now I've got to create my little army so that everybody knows this person's actually like, no, that's strongholds, that's the kitchen knife. Don't grab it. Just fall through the circumstance and let the Lord pick you up. Because I know there's so much you have learned on this journey. How did you start the process of spiritual healing in your

personal story? What's up everybody? Welcome back to the Leaders Cut. This is your first time

joining us. Welcome to the conversation, the way we kind of roll roll here we're never afraid not only to jump

into the deep end of the pool but we're never hesitant to jump into the deepest places of our

hearts which oftentimes is where some of the hang-ups some of the hurdles that we tend to push aside and do nothing about,

those are the very things that we can end up stumbling over or as a result of.

And that's actually what we're talking about today with one of my great, great friends,

who is certainly a friend to this podcast you all

loved him last time he was on today we're going to be talking about some inner

healing and this is how we're starting 2025 because I think if there was a get

ahead move you could make so that 2025 would trend more in the direction

that the Spirit of God is leading you to walk in. It would be to start by addressing some of the

hurts that have been deep within you for far too long. So I want to but be to start by addressing some of the hurts

that have been deep within you for far too long.

So I want you to know this is a safe space.

I brought in one of my most trusted friends

who I will tell you is extremely anointed

as a surgeon on behalf of heaven to deal with matters of the heart.

So let's pray and we'll jump in and go down whatever roads. Holy Spirit wants to take us.

Holy Spirit, thank you for every person who is joining us for this conversation. For those who are watching this the second it comes out,

for those who are watching this a year after it comes out. Lord, not only do I pray your

blessings upon them, I pray for open hearts. This for many is going to feel like open heart surgery. But as I've prayed over

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