Hi, welcome back to the Personality Hacker Podcast. My name is Jill Mark Witt.

And I'm Antonia Dodge. So tell me if you resonate with this.

Antoni and I together have three children, two of my children from a previous marriage, one together,

and every time, I mean it feels like every time we are in the car driving somewhere.

One of my boys usually is what happens. We'll bump into the other in the backseat and then you'll hear this screaming from the backseat

you know whether it's Sawyer or Gunner, you know Gunner just hit me and then it's like, what happened?

And then this was like, no I didn't and then this big fight happens or vice versa.

You know, Gunner just hit me, sort of just hit me, whatever it was.

And you know, and Tony and I will be in the front two seats trying to mitigate child drama and violence going on behind us.

And it's this crazy experience of watching two little egos battle themselves out basically and assuming and projecting

ill intent on to the other person and often it is literally just an accident.

It's just like somebody bumped into somebody else.

And now it's become this big thing of intent.

You know, he intended to hurt me.

He meant to do it.

It was so wrong of him to do that. You've got to correct this for me because it's bad and wrong and all of this crazy, crazy ego flare-up stuff, right, is happening. And what's really fascinating about that is

adults sitting in the front, we can almost roll our eyes and be like, okay, this is just

kid stuff, didn't mean to do it, you help your children work through the whole

experience, right? And the other day we were in the car, this was happening.

And in the middle of trying to mitigate all the violence and drama behind us in the back seat,

someone cuts me off on the freeway. And all of a sudden I'm like, that guy just cut me off on the freeway and all of a sudden I'm like that guy just cut me off and I start to project ill intent onto the guy that just pulled in front of me in my car and cut me off and was an interesting moment of reflection to go,

wait a second, this isn't just something in the realm of children,

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