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Hey everybody, this is Tim Chavez from Faith Matters, and I cannot tell you how excited I am for this episode. Today, we were joined by Mike Petro, who serves as the Director of

Formation, Faculty Relations, and Theological Foundations at the Center for Action and

Contemplation. The CAC is a non-profit founded by Father Richard Roar that introduces

seekers to the contemplative Christian path of transformation. Mike is intimately involved

with the CAC's Living School, a core educational offering from the

CAC that last year offered a course called Essentials of Engaged Contemplation that Aubrey and I

participated in. Mike is one of the primary hosts in the conversations that make up much of the

program, often conversing with people like Richard Roar and our friend Brian McLaren. Frankly, we

found the work that Mike and the rest of the CAC team did on this course to be

truly life-changing and engaging it has been one of the most uplifting and transformative

spiritual experiences that Aubrey and I have had in our lives.

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