The Past and Future of AI (with Dwarkesh Patel)

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🗓️ 28 April 2025

⏱️ 97 minutes

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Dwarkesh Patel interviewed the most influential thinkers and leaders in the world of AI and chronicled the history of AI up to now in his book, The Scaling Era. Listen as he talks to EconTalk's Russ Roberts about the book, the dangers and potential of AI, and the role scale plays in AI progress. The conversation concludes with a discussion of the art of podcasting.

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0:00.0	Welcome to Econ Talk, Conversations for the Curious, part of the Library of Economics and Liberty.
0:07.9	I'm your host, Russ Roberts, of Sholem College in Jerusalem and Stanford University's Hoover Institution.
0:13.8	Go to EconTalk.org, where you can subscribe, comment on this episode, and find links and other information related to today's conversation.
0:21.2	You'll also find our archives with every episode we've done going back to 2006.
0:26.7	Our email address is mail at econtalk.org.
0:30.0	We'd love to hear from you.
0:36.7	Today is March 25th, 2025, and my guest is podcaster and author Dorakesh Patel.
0:43.1	You can find him on YouTube at Substack at Dorcashth.com.
0:47.5	He is the author with Gavin Leach of The Scaling Era, an oral history of AI 2019 to 2025, which is our topic for today, along with
0:57.9	many other things I suspect.
0:59.9	Dorakesh, welcome to Econ Talk.
1:02.8	Thanks for having me on, Russ.
1:04.1	I've been a fan.
1:04.9	I was just telling you for ever since I've got, I think probably before I started my podcast,
1:08.9	I've been a big fan.
1:10.3	So it's actually really cool to get to talk to you. Well, I really appreciate it, I've been a big fan, so it's actually really
1:10.8	cool to get to talk to you.
1:11.8	Well, I really appreciate it.
1:13.4	I admire your work as well.
1:15.2	We're going to talk about it some.
1:17.8	You start off saying early in the book, and I should say this book is from Stripe Press,
1:24.7	which produces beautiful books.
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