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Death, Sex & Money

The Parent-Child Anxiety Trap

Death, Sex & Money

Slate Audio

Careers, Sexuality, Business, Health & Fitness, Relationships, Society & Culture

4.67.7K Ratings

🗓️ 26 May 2026

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Summary

Anna talks to Alexis, a parent whose 8 year old son has an anxiety disorder, about what it was like attending a therapy program designed for parents of anxious children. Plus, Anna talks to the founder of the program, Dr. Eli Lebowitz, Director of the Program for Anxiety Disorders at the Yale Child Study Center, and author of Breaking Free of Child Anxiety and OCD: A Scientifically Proven Program for Parents.

Podcast production by Zoe Azulay

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0:00.0

Hey, before we jump into this week's episode, I want to invite you to join me in New York City on Wednesday, June 10th at the Tribeca Festival. I'm interviewing actor Peter Dinklage, Game of Thrones Nation, come out, and playwright and director Erica Schmidt. They are married, and it's always so fun for me to

0:22.5

interview real-life couples because we know their work, but you also get a sense of the way they

0:28.0

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0:35.4

Go to tribecafilm.com slash audio.

0:40.9

Also, we are still collecting your stories about medication side effects, and we've been looking

0:46.3

through those for a future episode.

0:48.6

But for a different episode, we also want to hear from you about something else, erotic transference, the idea that sometimes

0:57.5

in the intimate space of therapy, a client can develop romantic or sexual feelings for their

1:04.2

therapist. It's actually more common than you might think, and it has a name because it's a

1:09.6

recognized psychological phenomenon,

1:12.0

not just an awkward accident. So we want to hear from you about this if you've ever experienced it,

1:19.7

either as a client who found themselves developing unexpected flirty feelings for a therapist,

1:25.8

or as a therapist who has navigated a client's feelings

1:29.6

towards you, or even your own feelings toward a client, which is called countertransference.

1:35.9

There could be a lot going on in a therapy session.

1:39.0

What happened? How did it get addressed or not?

1:42.3

Send us a voice memo and tell us about this at death sex money at slate.com.

1:50.6

One message that I would want any parent of an anxious child to know is that in all of mental health, in all of psychiatry and psychology, there is no problem

2:04.0

more treatable than anxiety.

2:09.5

This is death, sex, and money.

2:14.5

The show from Slate about the things we think about a lot and need to talk about more.

2:22.4

I mean a sale.

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