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The papyrus and the volcano

Outside/In

NHPR

Society & Culture, Documentary, Natural Sciences, Nature, Science

4.7 • 1.5K Ratings

🗓️ 16 May 2024

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

While digging a well in 1750, a group of workers accidentally discovered an ancient Roman villa containing over a thousand papyrus scrolls. This was a stunning discovery: the only library from antiquity ever found in situ. But the scrolls were blackened and fragile, turned almost to ash by the eruption of Mount Vesuvius. Over the centuries, scholars’ many attempts to unroll the fragile scrolls have mostly been catastrophic. But now, scientists are trying again, this time with the help of Silicon Valley and some of the most advanced technology we’ve got: particle accelerators, CT scanners, and AI. After two thousand years, will we finally be able to read the scrolls? Featuring Federica Nicolardi, Brent Seales, Youssef Nader, Arefeh Sherafati, and Julian Schilliger.    SUPPORT Donate $10 per month and get our new “I axolotl questions” mug! Follow Outside/In on Instagram or Twitter, or join our private discussion group on Facebook.   LINKS The Vesuvius Challenge is not over. Find out more here.  Check out more pictures of the scrolls and the process of “virtual unwrapping” at the Digital Restoration Initiative website, or watch Brent Seales lecture about his technique. A 60 Minutes story (2018) focusing on the conflict between Seales and scholars Vito Mocella and Graziano Ranocchia. A replica of the marble floor discovered by Italian farmworkers in 1750.  A video illustrating the process of “virtual unwrapping” with a jelly roll. Contestant Casey Handmer’s blog post detailing his identification of the “crackle signal” to the ink.  CREDITS Outside/In host: Nate Hegyi Reported, produced, and mixed by Justine Paradis  Edited by Taylor Quimby Our team also includes Felix Poon.  NHPR’s Director of Podcasts is Rebecca Lavoie Music in this episode came from Silver Maple, Xavy Rusan, bomull, Young Community, Bio Unit, Konrad OldMoney, Chris Zabriski, and Blue Dot Sessions. Volcano recordings came from daveincamas on Freesound.org, License Attribution 4.0 and  felix.blume on freesound.org, Creative Commons 0. Outside/In is a production of New Hampshire Public Radio. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hey Nate.

0:03.0

Hey, justine.

0:05.0

Our journey today begins in Italy.

0:08.0

Way back in 1750.

0:10.0

We're on the southwestern coast, right on the Mediterranean, and a group of people are busy digging a well.

0:17.0

And while they're digging, their shovels start to hit, not soil soil but this.

0:25.0

Whoa!

0:28.0

They hit what looks to be...

0:30.0

Is that tile?

0:32.0

Yeah, it's like a mosaic.

0:33.0

To me it's almost fractally.

0:35.0

It looks like a marble rug.

0:38.0

It's beautiful.

0:40.0

It's beautiful. It turned out that this was a patterned marble floor which had been buried in volcanic ash because this villa was once part of the ancient town of Herculaneum just outside of Pompeii.

0:52.0

Oh, that Pompeii.

0:54.0

The one that was almost completely buried by the eruption of Mount Vesuvius almost 2,000 years ago.

0:59.0

People eventually figured out that this villa probably belonged to Julius Caesar's father-in-law.

1:05.9

And so it was lavish, complete with dozens of bronze and marble statues and an Olympic swimming

1:11.6

pool.

1:13.0

But the real treasure was in the library.

1:16.0

Excavators eventually found hundreds of papyrus scrolls, each of them containing

1:27.1

invaluable writings on classical philosophy.

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