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Interesting Times with Ross Douthat

The Pandemic vs. The President

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat

New York Times Opinion

New York Times, Journalism, News, Society & Culture, Ross Douthat

4.07.2K Ratings

🗓️ 12 March 2020

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

Is President Trump's underreaction to the coronavirus a reason for more draconian measures to lock down the pandemic? Would more efforts to control the spread by the Trump administration help or hurt the country's preparedness for the impact? Ross Douthat and David Leonhardt debate this, and Western society's descent into dangerous decadence, in this live podcast recording at The Times Center in New York City. For background reading on this live episode, visit nytimes.com/theargument.

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0:00.0

I'm Ross Douthand.

0:01.7

I'm David Lee and Hart.

0:03.1

And live from Time Center, this is the argument.

0:07.8

APPLAUSE

0:14.8

You might notice that we are down one host tonight.

0:17.3

Michelle is out with a cold, just a cold.

0:20.1

Michelle wishes she were here, particularly because whenever we do a live show,

0:23.6

Michelle finds out that she is the host with the opinions that are most popular among our audience.

0:29.7

But we wish her well and we'll see her back here next week.

0:33.3

This week, the coronavirus and what is the president's job in a time of crisis?

0:39.4

Then, we'll quiz Ross about his new book, The Decadent Society,

0:45.2

and play a little game that might divide us all.

0:54.0

So Ross, we're here at the Time Center in Midtown, Manhattan with 300 some odd friends.

0:58.9

Down the street, Broadway shows are getting ready to open with packed audiences.

1:03.0

But some people are worried.

1:04.6

We've all heard about the run on hand sanitizer and face masks.

1:08.8

When the markets opened this week, stocks dropped so quickly that trading was briefly halted.

1:14.4

Part of a rule intended to avoid a panic.

1:18.2

Ross, how do you think about the stage that we're at right now?

1:22.1

Will Broadway curtains be going up a week from now the way they are tonight?

1:26.5

I've been sort of a professional alarmist throughout the entire progress of the coronavirus.

1:36.7

With that as background, my suspicion is that this is sort of the last normal week

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