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🗓️ 12 November 2025
⏱️ 59 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome back and joining us now is Zoe Smith. |
| 0:11.1 | She has set up a website, Thrillkill MedicalCult.com. |
| 0:16.2 | You can also find her on Substack. |
| 0:19.0 | The name of the Substack is Zoe. That's Z-o-we-e.com. And we want to talk to her |
| 0:26.5 | about being a whistleblower and the things that she saw during the pandemic lockdown. |
| 0:32.8 | Zoe worked as a medical coder for over a decade. Tell us a little bit about that. What was |
| 0:37.3 | that involved with? Is that for insurance purposes, identifying the procedures, worked as a medical coder for over a decade. Tell us a little bit about that. What was that |
| 0:37.5 | involved with? Is that for insurance purposes, identifying the procedures and putting the right |
| 0:42.4 | code on it? Yeah. Hi. Thanks for invite. Thanks for being here. Yeah. So a medical coder, a lot of |
| 0:49.1 | people don't even know that it exists because you don't really see it as a patient. But |
| 0:53.4 | everything that happens to you |
| 0:55.3 | in a hospital, clinic, x-ray, lab, whatever, has to have a diagnosis and procedure assigned, |
| 1:01.2 | and that's how your doctor gets paid. So the coder is the one who reviews that documentation, |
| 1:07.0 | assigns the right diagnosis code, assigns the right procedure code, and that's what gets put on |
| 1:11.7 | the bill and that your insurance or Medicare uses to pay your doctor or the lab or the hospital |
| 1:16.8 | for their services. So it was really boring until it happened. Then you had a bird's eye view |
| 1:22.5 | of what was going on. I was just telling you off air, the aha moment for me was the AHA, the American Hospital Association, |
| 1:31.3 | and I believe it was August of 2020. I've talked about this many times. They got very upset because |
| 1:36.3 | they said to CMS who was paying them. They said, you told us that we didn't have to have a PCR |
| 1:43.2 | documentation for this. He said that you didn't have to have a PCR documentation for this. |
| 1:45.2 | He said that you didn't have enough of them and you said they didn't work. |
| 1:48.0 | And you said, we just pointed somebody to a clinical diagnosis and you would give us a 20% |
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