The Pandemic Behind Bars with Josie Duffy Rice

Why Is This Happening? The Chris Hayes Podcast

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4.6 • 8.9K Ratings

🗓️ 12 May 2020

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

How is the pandemic playing out in jails and prisons? Insufficient health care, a lack of protective gear, and the fundamental inability to physically distance have created inescapable outbreaks. Those incarcerated are at the center of some of the top coronavirus hot spots in the country. And as lawyer and president of The Appeal Josie Duffy Rice points out, these systems are porous; an outbreak in a jail could mean an outbreak in the community. So what can and should be done for the incarcerated populations? And what broader inequities are we seeing with the criminal justice system in the midst of this pandemic? Listen to Josie Duffy Rice to find out.

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0:00.0	I mean, the overarching reality about on the hygiene issue is just that it's very clear
0:05.2	people are not taking this seriously enough in terms of officials at the prison.
0:10.8	I was hearing from someone yesterday who was saying they were wearing underwear as a face
0:15.0	mask.
0:16.0	I mean, this sort of ad hoc, once again sort of ad hoc way of addressing a virus like
0:21.7	this and trying to stay safe is deeply, deeply distressing when you imagine being trapped
0:27.2	in a place where you're trying to stay healthy and you know, you're resorting to putting
0:32.0	your underwear on your face.
0:34.2	Hello and welcome to Wise is Happening with me, your host Chris Hayes.
0:43.0	Yet another week here on the quarantine closet on Wise is happening with the recording equipment
0:47.7	from the great Kate Shaw who is both anchor producer A to love of my life and host a strict
0:54.8	new podcast.
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1:01.2	Since the beginning of the COVID epidemic, I've been hearing from people.
1:04.4	I have a lot of friends.
1:05.4	I would say Kate and I have a lot of friends.
1:08.6	Associates people we know in the world of criminal defense, particularly public defenders,
1:13.2	criminal justice advocates who will that work at legal clinics that represent people
1:16.9	that are in prison.
1:18.6	I have a lot of sources as a journalist with immigration lawyers who deal with people
1:23.0	who are in detention, doctors on rikers, there's a whole sort of world of folks that from
1:28.0	the first moment the pandemic started to hit, I started hearing from this is going to be
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