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The Pale Faced Lie Revisited

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Javier Leiva

True Crime, Society & Culture, Technology

4.72.2K Ratings

🗓️ 1 July 2025

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

David Crow says he was his father's criminal accomplice. In today's episode, we delve into the extraordinary story of David Crow, author of the book titled "The Pale-Faced Lie." It's the story of a father and son entangled in a life of crime. David recounts his experiences as his father's criminal accomplice, always by his side. And what it was like growing up with a violent and convicted felon who used the Native American reservation as a refuge to evade his enemies. This episode is the story of a young boy grappling with his place in the world, torn between his father's influence and his desire for a different path. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Creative Babble

0:02.0

Hey guys, this Javier. Can you believe it? I am working on season 22, eight years of pretend.

0:17.0

I can't believe it, but season 22 is going to be great. It's going to be a collection

0:21.7

of stories that I've been actually reporting on for multiple years and some new investigations.

0:27.6

And some investigations that went busts and right in my face. It fell flat, but I'm not giving up.

0:34.0

But while I'm working on the new season, I wanted to play a story that's really the most

0:39.5

Americana story that I have in my catalog.

0:42.4

And it's the story of David Crow and his father.

0:45.5

It's called The Paleface Lie.

0:47.9

And when I originally aired this series, it was a part one and part two.

0:52.0

I'm going to air them both together today.

0:54.6

If you've never listened to it, it is a powerful story.

0:57.9

Really, truly an unbelievable story.

1:00.3

And if you have listened to it, but it's been years,

1:03.0

I just listened to it again just to remind myself of the story.

1:07.1

And it is just as fascinating now as when I first learned about it.

1:11.6

So without further ado, here is a pale-faced lie.

1:15.6

I would imagine that most people, when they think of their earliest childhood memories with their father,

1:30.3

they're probably thinking about throwing the football back and forth on the lawn or weekend camping trip,

1:36.2

or maybe even going over math homework at the kitchen table.

1:40.3

For David Crow, things were a little different.

1:47.7

He wasn't just his father's child. He was also his criminal accomplice. I have an expression, childhood is a city you can never leave. And when you

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