The packaging problem
The Food Chain
BBC
4.7 • 545 Ratings
🗓️ 10 April 2025
⏱️ 27 minutes
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Summary
As plastic waste continues to pile up, Ruth Alexander explores how manufacturers, retailers, and designers are rethinking the way our food is packaged.
We hear how shoppers are responding to eco-conscious packaging in Finland, from supermarket manager Markku Hautala. And is plastic really the enemy? Paul Jenkins, founder of a leading packaging consultancy, shares the latest innovations in sustainable design, and why some materials aren’t always what they seem.
Rhea Singhal, CEO of India’s first fully compostable packaging company, discusses the realities of creating truly sustainable alternatives—and whether they’re enough. And the head of a German frozen food company, Felix Ahlers, explains why his company ditched all additives – packaging included – for the sake of the environment.
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| 0:00.0 | I'm no longer ravenous. I'll no longer eat until I fall asleep. The Hunger Game, |
| 0:05.9 | a new five-part series exploring the meteoric rise of weight loss drugs. It's been an incredible |
| 0:10.7 | story with these drugs. The uptake, the amount of product that's been sold, the amounts of money |
| 0:15.1 | is cost. What the drugs do, how they work, and the knock-on effects of their widespread use. |
| 0:20.5 | We'll be sitting here in three years' time going, oh, it caused problems that we're now going to have to fix. |
| 0:26.2 | The Hunger Game with me, Professor Giles Yo. Listen first on BBC Sounds. |
| 0:40.7 | Let's have a look inside my kitchen bin. |
| 0:45.3 | The plastic wrapper from a chicken. |
| 0:47.8 | A bag that contained tortillas. |
| 0:49.5 | A crisp packet. |
| 0:54.3 | I don't think any of this will be recycled, and I feel bad about that. |
| 0:59.6 | I'm sure, though, this is a familiar scene and feeling in households around the world, |
| 1:06.4 | and companies are facing pressure from government legislation and consumers to make their packaging more sustainable. |
| 1:11.6 | So this week on the food chain from the BBC World Service with me, Ruth Alexander, we're speaking to a food manufacturer, a retailer and a packaging designer |
| 1:16.6 | about how they're trying to solve the problem. |
| 1:19.6 | As you'll hear, it's not easy, and the key to meaningful change may lie with us consumers. |
| 1:26.6 | First today, our reporter Jessica Cruz has been asking people in Brazil, one of the world's |
| 1:32.4 | biggest plastic producers, if it matters to them when they're out shopping, whether a |
| 1:37.3 | product's packaging is sustainable. |
| 1:42.2 | Because we see that the company took care to think about the environment, |
| 1:46.4 | so it does have an influence. |
| 1:49.2 | Currently, I would think about it. |
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