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Euphomet

The Owl, UFOs, and Death | In Liminal

Euphomet

And,If Studio

Personal Journals, Society & Culture, Documentary

4.8 • 1.1K Ratings

🗓️ 16 April 2026

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

[Watch the Video Version on Spotify] This time, Jim has a conversation with Mike Clelland on how an ultralight backpacking wilderness guide found the deepest of mysteries out in the wilderness. Owls, UFOs, Synchronicity. Learn more at https://mikeclelland.com/ In Liminal is a field series where Jim Perry steps out of the studio and into the landscapes where strange things happen. He sits down with experiencers, researchers, and storytellers in the places connected to their encounters. These conversations unfold in the wild, followed by small side-quests into the surrounding terrain to explore the history, folklore, and mysteries tied to the land itself. First available exclusively to Patreon members at ⁠patreon.com/euphomet ⁠- You can join the Euphomet Patreon and gain access to an AD FREE feed, an archive of the Original Series and be a part of LIVE interactive shows ⁠JOIN HERE⁠. JIM PERRY | Host, Executive Producer, Founder KARL PFEIFFER | Director Of Photography, Editor | ⁠https://www.karlpfeiffer.com/⁠ JON MCEDWARD | Sound Recording, Editing, Original Score  Euhomet is a production of And,If Studio **** SHARE YOUR STORY! Reach Jim at ⁠jim@euphomet.com⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

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0:01.9

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0:06.7

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0:13.2

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0:18.5

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0:22.3

Just like that.

0:27.0

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0:29.8

Subject to availability while stocks last.

0:40.9

Luminality is the in between, a space in which, unmapped, becomes a place of obsession and lore, a memory of one small crack on a sphere, its own surface refusing to be made flat, without distortion, once

0:48.7

a plane, now merely a projection of the unknown.

0:53.8

I'm Jim Perry, and this is inliminal.

1:00.4

Conversations somewhere in between.

1:07.4

Into these places unknown, guarded by deep waterway and trees.

1:13.0

Out here one doesn't have to try hard to be alone with nature.

1:17.5

On a remote peninsula, I'm meeting with an ultralight backpacker named Mike Cleland, whose

1:22.3

life changed forever after being taken in the night.

1:26.3

His captors, disguised as owl, opening a door in his mind to UFO's synchronicity abduction.

1:34.4

A wild life turned wilder.

1:43.0

I want to thank you for trying this out with me too.

1:46.1

Oh, happily.

1:46.8

Happily. I'm all for this.

1:47.7

This couldn't be a better day either.

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