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Unbelievable?

The Outsider Test of Faith & Miracles - Randal Rauser vs John Loftus - Unbelievable?

Unbelievable?

Premier Unbelievable?

Christianity, Religion & Spirituality

4.62.3K Ratings

🗓️ 23 June 2014

⏱️ 81 minutes

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Summary

Randal Rauser is a Christian, John Loftus is a former-Christian-now-atheist. They have co-authored the book God Or Godless? debating 20 controversial questions. They join Justin for two discussions. In his Outsider Test for Faith Loftus claims that Christians would abandon their faith if they critiqued it in the way they do other religions. But Rauser argues that Loftus needs to put his own atheistic worldview through the test. They also debate whether stories of miracles can count as evidence of the supernatural. For more debates visit www.premier.org.uk/unbelievable Join the conversation via Facebook and Twitter For God Or Godless? book http://www.amazon.co.uk/God-Godless-Christian-Controversial-Questions/dp/0801015286 For The Outsider Test For Faith book http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Outsider-Test-Faith-Religion/dp/1616147377 For Randal Rauser http://randalrauser.com/ For John Loftus http://debunkingchristianity.blogspot.co.uk Get the MP3 podcast of Unbelievable? http://ondemand.premier.org.uk/unbelievable/AudioFeed.aspx or Via Itunes You may also enjoy: Unbelievable? 16th February 2013 - I just believe in one less god than you... Randal Rauser & Ralph Jones Unbelievable? 5 Apr 2008 "Why I became an atheist" Part 1 - John Loftus & Peter May

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Good afternoon and welcome along to the program. I'm Justin Braley, your host for the next hour and a half here on the radio show and podcast that aims to get you thinking that brings Christians and non-christians together. It's unbelievable this Saturday afternoon here on Premier Christian radio.

0:45.2

And don't forget you can find us online with links to past shows and lots of other features and resources

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and videos at Premier dot org dot UK

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slash unbelievable

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links there of course to our Facebook and Twitter accounts as well

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you can find me at unbelievable jb on Twitter

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and Facebook dot com slash unbelievable JB if you want to find and

1:06.2

like the Facebook page. This is all about getting Christians and non-Christians talking,

1:10.8

defending the Christian worldview by open discussion and dialogue.

1:15.2

And so that's exactly what we're doing on today's show.

1:18.1

I'm going to be introducing my guests, John Loftus and Randall Raouser in just a moment's time.

1:23.6

Just a reminder though that if you were at unbelievable the conference 2013 a few weeks ago

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or couldn't make it there, don't forget we are going to be releasing the videos online shortly so stay tuned for more

1:35.4

on how you can get hold of those a little later on in the month and don't forget also

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