Welcome to Potsade of America, I'm John Fabro.

I'm Dan Fyfer.

Today in the pod we have former senior advisor to Barack Obama, the director of the University

of Chicago's Institute of Politics, and the host of the Axviles, David Axelrod.

Finally.

This is the crossover episode everyone's been asking for.

Like a year in the making.

Before we begin, everyone goes subscribe to Potsade of the World.

Tommy has Gail Smith, who's the former director of USAID on.

With friends like these, her show on Friday was excellent.

She had Adam Savage on for Mythbusters, and they helped someone whose relative was believing

in conspiracy theories.

And so we talked about sort of how to stop conspiracy theories, which is interesting.

And then of course, love it or leave it.

We're going to have another show this Friday.

So sign up for that and check it out.

Love it's not going to interrupt our podcast today.

He's not here, Dan.

Oh, that's a man.

Do not.

He's not here now.

I fully expect at the end.

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