You may not know that aside from having the most iconic fleet in ocean travel,

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So after a morning spent relaxing, there are talks, classes, perhaps even lunch by the pool,

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Hi everyone. Welcome back to Infamous, a Sony Music Entertainment and Campside Media production.

I'm Natalie Robamed. Thanks so much for listening to the show. And reminder that if you want to hear the

full story of what really put Jan Shah in prison, scroll back to the earliest episode in this series,

The Rich Utah Wives and Their Scams Part 1. So as I just said, we spent the last few episodes

diving into the Utah scam of real housewife Jen Shah and a bit about the scandal, not a scam,

but a fairly large brouhaha, of Mormon wife Taylor Frankie

Paul. But when we zoom out and look at the real housewives as a cultural artifact, what

interests me is the way in which the housewife playbook seems to have become commonplace across

culture today. And when I say the housewife playbook, I mean this. You start or get into a fight with a peer,

either on TV or online, you gain clout from that argument, your followers take aside,

which allows you to consolidate your base, and then rinse and repeat. It's conflict after

conflict, fight after argument, all piled atop one another in a never-ending

snowball amassing ever more fame, a headline-generating boxing match of P.T. Barnum-style thinking.

All publicity is good publicity. Sometimes, of course, the falling outs are real. And right now, the biggest conflict in media

is between podcaster Alex Cooper of Call Her Daddy fame and Alex Earl, the TikTok famous creator.

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