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The Other Latif: Episode 3

Radiolab

WNYC Studios

Science, Natural Sciences, History, Society & Culture, Documentary

4.643.5K Ratings

🗓️ 18 February 2020

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Summary

The Other Latif

Radiolab’s Latif Nasser always believed his name was unique, singular, completely his own. Until one day when he makes a bizarre and shocking discovery. He shares his name with another man: Abdul Latif Nasser, detainee 244 at Guantanamo Bay. The U.S. government paints a terrifying picture of The Other Latif as Al-Qaeda’s top explosives expert, and one of the most important advisors to Osama bin Laden. Nasser’s lawyer claims that he was at the wrong place at the wrong time, and that he was never even in Al-Qaeda. This clash leads Radiolab’s Latif into a years-long investigation, picking apart evidence, attempting to separate fact from fiction, and trying to uncover what this man actually did or didn’t do. Along the way, Radiolab’s Latif reflects on American values and his own religious past, and wonders how his namesake, a fellow nerdy, suburban Muslim kid, may have gone down such a strikingly different path.

Episode 3: Sudan

Latif turns his focus to Sudan, where his namesake spent time working on a sunflower farm. What could be suspicious about that? Latif scrutinizes the evidence to try to discover whether - as Abdul Latif’s lawyer insists - it was just an innocent clerical job, or - as the government alleges - it was where he decided to become an extremist fighter.

This episode was produced by Suzie Lechtenberg, Sarah Qari, and Latif Nasser. With help from Niza Nondo and Maaki Monem. Fact checking by Diane Kelly and Margot Williams. Editing by Jad Abumrad and Soren Wheeler. Original music by Jad Abumrad, Alex Overington, Jeremy Bloom, and Amino Belyamani.

If you caught this episode on the radio, and want to learn or hear more from the excellent podcast Love Me, check them out here: https://www.cbc.ca/radio/loveme and to learn more about Mansoor Adafyi, check out his new book Don't Forget Us.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Wait, you're listening to radio lab from W and Y's.

0:14.4

Previously, we were being chased by the police.

0:24.9

They say he was with all these very bad people, Al-Qaeda and the Taliban directly associated

0:30.0

with Osama bin Laden.

0:31.0

Is it possible?

0:32.0

He was just running with the wrong people.

0:34.4

These are the worst.

0:36.0

Abdul Teef is going to get out.

0:37.4

He's clear.

0:38.4

And he will have a window when he comes here.

0:45.2

I'm Lattif Nasr and this is The Other Lattif.

0:48.4

Episode 3.

0:50.1

When we last left Abdul Teef Nasr, he was a drift.

0:59.7

He was in his mid-20s.

1:01.3

His mom had died.

1:02.9

He dropped out of school.

1:04.2

He had moved to Libya to make some money, but he was broke.

1:10.7

His dreams of studying and teaching science were fading.

1:15.2

So he makes a decision to move again.

1:18.0

This time to Sudan.

1:21.0

And Muhammadatuhu'i in our last episode suggested maybe that's where it happened.

1:26.2

Sudan probably is your best bet to find out where and how.

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