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The origins of Covid

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BBC

News Commentary, Science, Mathematics, News

4.63.7K Ratings

🗓️ 19 June 2021

⏱️ 9 minutes

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Summary

To find out where a virus comes from, researchers compare it to other viruses to try to trace its origin. This leads to claims like SARS-CoV-2 is 91 or even 96% similar to other known viruses. But what does that really mean? Tim Harford talks to the virus ecologist Marilyn J Roossinck.

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to more or less on the BBC World Service, where your weekly guide to

0:04.9

the numbers all around us in the news and in life, and I'm Tim Halford.

0:10.1

Where did the virus that causes Covid-19 come from? Was it made by scientists in a lab,

0:18.2

passed to humans from bats or perhaps from some other animal? Reports on these questions

0:24.2

often focus on the genetic similarity between different viruses which originate in different

0:29.6

species and this similarity is expressed in percentages. This is how the Guardians

0:35.8

today in focus podcast covered it. But a few miles away is she's Englins lab, where

0:44.0

the coronavirus sample taken from that bat cave in 2012 shows a 96% match to Covid-19.

0:52.8

So a theory begins to take hold. Could there be a link between this lab and the outbreak?

1:00.6

Listen Henry Hadlow, who can't be especially loyal since he was listening to someone

1:05.1

else's podcast, got in touch. The Guardians today in focus podcast just covered the Covid-

1:11.3

lab leak theory, citing that Covid-19 is a 96% match with a sample collected by the Wuhan

1:18.0

Institute for Virology in 2012. But is that a lot? EG, what percentage matches Covid-19

1:24.8

with the common cold? Henry ended his tweet with a particularly charming

1:30.1

eye heart more or less sequence of emojis, so we'll forgive him for straining. So what does

1:36.7

it actually mean to say that SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes Covid-19, is 96% similar

1:44.5

to a strain found in bats? How similar is it to SARS-CoV-1, the virus that caused the

1:50.7

SARS outbreak in 2003? And how similar are different variants of SARS-CoV-2?

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Marilyn J. Rousink is a virus ecologist and a professor at Penn State University in the

2:03.5

United States. Well, basically how we determine that is we just determine the nucleotide

2:08.7

sequences of the virus and then we line them up and we just usually a computer does this

2:15.1

for us, but you essentially just count the differences. When you are lining up these viruses and

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