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This is going to be maybe another ignorant question, but where does Poké come from?

Is that Hawaiian?

So random question.

Poké is a type of raw fish and it can be made out of any type of fish of ahituna.

This is Professor Tiffany talking to me from Honolulu, Hawaii, a place I've never been

and know very little about.

Hence the ignorant questions.

We're getting to know each other.

Isn't there like a coffee drink that gets you stoned?

Ooh, I know what you're talking about, Kava.

Yeah, Kava.

Break down the Kava for me.

What's going on with Kava?

How do I get some of that?

I've been here as we're supposed to say, but I digress because this, this isn't our story.

Yeah, but we had to get comfortable because Tiffany is about to help us tell a story about Hawaii

that according to a lot of people has been told wrong.

Maybe not told at all for more than a century.

It's a story about the most interesting man in the world that nobody has ever heard of.

Or at least very few people outside of Hawaii.

And even if you're in Hawaii, this man's story has still been told incorrectly, depending

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