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Mortification of Spin

The Order of Love

Mortification of Spin

Alliance of Confessing Evangelicals

Religion & Spirituality

4.4853 Ratings

🗓️ 9 April 2025

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Summary

Todd and Carl, now officially an American citizen, dive into the challenging subject of immigration. Together, they explore the theological concept of the "order of love," its implications for prioritizing our obligations to others, and how this intersects with the responsibilities of the State versus the Church.  The situation is complicated. How do we navigate? How do we develop a hierarchy of loves and obligations that is faithful to Scripture but also handles the complexities that Scripture throws up? – Carl Trueman In other words, how do we balance our responsibilities to our neighbors and the laws of the land? With references to contemporary issues and personal anecdotes, this episode challenges listeners to consider their perspectives on immigration and community, as Christians and citizens. We are pleased to offer Mortification of Spin swag to three of our listeners, including a t-shirt, a baseball cap, and a mug! Enter here for the opportunity to win.

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0:00.0

Welcome to Mortification of Spin, a casual conversation about things that count with Carl Truman and Todd Pruitt, a podcast of the Alliance of Confessing Evangelicals.

0:29.2

Let's join this week's conversation.

0:31.6

Thank you. You are listening to Mortification of Spin. My name is Todd Pruitt.

0:53.8

As always, I'm the pastor of

0:56.3

Covenant Presbyterian Church in Harrisonburg, Virginia. I'm joined, as I always am, by my co-host and

1:03.4

friend of many, many years back when both of us had thick, lustrous hair on our heads,

1:09.4

Carl Truman, who's a professor at Grove City College,

1:12.6

as well as numerous other things. Carl has, Carl, you have many irons in the fire. You're in demand

1:21.1

around the world. Your voice is, is, is demanded in Washington and in faraway nations.

1:31.2

Well, Carl, as we've mentioned numerous times over the last year, you are no longer an undocumented worker here in the United States.

1:42.4

Of course, you were never an undocumented.

1:43.4

I was never an undocumented worker. I always had documents, the right documents. So you've always been here legally.

1:51.6

I've always been here legally. Unlike, you know, Prince Harry, now there's some big issues there,

1:57.2

I believe. No, I've always been here legally. Yeah, yeah. Is there a way we can get rid of

2:03.8

Prince Harry? There are many ways to get rid of him, but I think is... Well, I mean, just, you know,

2:09.2

remove him from the country. Oh, well, the big debate is about whether he declared his drug use

2:16.5

on his application for green card.

2:20.2

So there is serious question about whether Prince Harry actually lied to the federal government.

2:28.2

Big no-no.

2:29.5

I hope he didn't do that.

2:31.4

I'd hate to see him go.

2:33.5

Yeah, yeah. I will hate to see him go. Yeah. Yeah.

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