Welcome to the Black Girl Burnout podcast.

Kelly here.

And this is part three of the series, the opt-out is is a discipline not a destination. This is a conversation

with Jeanette Davis that we're going to continue. If you recall in the first two parts,

part one, we talked about what the opt-out meant for us and how we even got to that mentality.

Part two, we talked about how we use the opt out

and we opt out as a daily practice in our personal lives. And today's episode, we're going to

wrap up the series by talking about how we do this in our professional lives. This was a powerful

conversation and just a model of some of the conversations we're going to be having in season two.

As I am going to introduce guests that are experts in the field, regular folks like you and I,

having conversations about what the opt out means to them and how they can do it.

So without further ado, let's get into the conversation with Jeanette and I as we conclude

our series on the opt out as a discipline, not a destination.

Now let's talk about the professional.

Let's talk about the professional because I really want to talk about that too.

It's like the opting out is for me and I want to hear from you, the opting out for me professionally was this addiction to visibility, which I think you talked about a little bit about.

I wanted people to see me.

I work in my behind off.

I am so good at what I do. Can I just tell you the world? I'm so good. Let me clap that up. Let me clap that up. And Jeanette, you are so good at what you do, which people are hearing. The listeners, they already like, who this lady? She got a podcast. It's like, you are so good at what you do.

And so a lot of my professional career was spent trying to make you see how good I

and challenge a narrative that I inherited because let's be honest,

we're black women in a professional setting.

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