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The Opposite of Addiction — with Johann Hari

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🗓️ 22 October 2019

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

What causes addiction? Johann Hari, author of Chasing the Scream, travelled some 30,000 miles in search of an answer. He met with researchers and lawmakers, drug dealers and drug makers, those who were struggling with substance abuse and those who had recovered from it, and he came to the conclusion that our whole narrative about addiction is broken. "The opposite of addiction is not sobriety," he argues. "The opposite of addiction is connection." But first, we have to figure out what it really means to connect.

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0:00.0

If you'd asked me when I started doing with this research, what causes heroin addiction?

0:05.2

I would have said, well dummy, the clue's in the name, right?

0:08.5

Obviously, heroin causes heroin addiction.

0:11.3

That's Johann Hari, a British journalist who traveled some 30,000 miles to answer

0:16.0

this deceptively simple question. I would have thought if we had randomly snatched 20 non-addictive

0:21.6

people off the streets of San Francisco and like a

0:23.8

villain in a saw movie we injected them all with heroin every day for a month at the

0:27.5

end of that month they'd all be heroin addicts and indeed I thought that's

0:29.8

what addiction is it's the desperate physical craving for the drug.

0:33.0

If you give 20 injections you'll get 20 addicts. Case closed.

0:37.0

That is, until Johann encountered a group of people who had in fact been pulled off the street

0:42.0

and injected with the drug as potent as heroin, and their

0:44.7

story blew everything he thought he knew about addiction wide open.

0:48.8

In Britain, where I'm from, as you can tell from my weird downtown Abbey accent, If you step out into the street and you get

0:54.4

hit by a truck, you'll be taken to hospital and you'll be given a lot of a drug called

0:58.4

diamorphine. Diamorphine is heroin, right? It's much better than the contaminated shit you'd buy here on the street

1:04.0

because it's medically pure heroin so if anyone listening to this has a British

1:08.6

grandmother who's had a hip replacement operation your grandmother has taken a lot

1:12.2

harrowing quite

1:12.8

likely. If what we think about addiction is right, that it's caused primarily or

1:17.3

entirely by exposure to the chemical hooks, what should be happening to all these

1:21.5

people in hospitals in Britain? They should be happening to all these people in hospitals in Britain?

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