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Explain It to Me

The opioid debate: could reversing overdoses worsen the epidemic?

Explain It to Me

Vox Media Podcast Network

Education, News, Society & Culture, Politics

4.48K Ratings

🗓️ 20 March 2018

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

An economics working paper finds that access to Naloxone, a drug to reverse opioid overdoses, may increase opioid abuse. Sarah and Ezra explain the paper that started a social media firestorm — and what it means for combating the opioid epidemic. References: Doleac and Mukherjee working paper A good summary of the debate from The Atlantic Health Affairs blog post  Working paper from Daniel Rees People are dying because we misunderstand how those with addiction think A lifesaving drug for overdoses doesn’t reduce opioid deaths? Be skeptical Trump’s opioid crisis plan: more death penalty, fewer prescriptions, more treatment Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

I guess I should actually have the mic in front of me.

0:02.0

Well, I'm ready when everybody else is ready.

0:04.0

I'm also ready. Let's go.

0:19.0

Hello, welcome to another episode of the Weeds on the Box Media Podcast Network.

0:23.0

I am Ezra Klein. I am here with Sarah Cliff.

0:26.0

Hi, Ezra.

0:27.0

Not here with Matt Iglesias.

0:28.0

He's in Wisconsin.

0:29.0

I don't care where he is. He's not here.

0:31.0

That's what matters to me.

0:33.0

It could be anywhere, but he's not here.

0:35.0

But we are here.

0:36.0

And we're really excited about this episode.

0:39.0

We, Sarah and I have been working a lot on this episode over the past couple of days.

0:43.0

We want to dive into this debate on Naloxone, which is a treatment for opioid abuse.

0:48.0

And there's been a big paper on it.

0:50.0

And it has split the public health community, split the drug treatment community, split the Twitter sphere.

0:57.0

It is the most raging debate on a working paper I've seen in a while.

1:01.0

The war is raging and the weeds is here to make sense of it all.

1:05.0

So Sarah, can you make some sense of it all?

1:07.0

I can try.

1:08.0

You can. I'll leave it in here.

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