The Open Secret: Part Three – Looking for Answers
This Is Why
Sky News
4.0 • 552 Ratings
🗓️ 18 October 2022
⏱️ 42 minutes
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Summary
On the final of this three-part series, Sky's political correspondent Liz Bates speaks to a former Chief Whip about their role in protecting MPs and parties' reputations. And, a former Conservative minister on why she believes things got worse under Boris Johnson's leadership.
Plus, as the Speaker Lindsay Hoyle calls for 'radical action', can his Speakers’ Conference bring about the changes needed to make Westminster safer and restore public trust in politicians?
Warning: This podcast contains sensitive details that some listeners may find upsetting.
If you want to get in touch about anything you hear in this episode, Liz is on twitter @wizbates
Presenter: Liz Bates
Political news editor: Agnes Chambre
Podcast editor: Philly Beaumont
Podcast producer: Rosie Gillott
Sound designer: Tom Burchill
Podcast promotions producer: David Chipakupaku
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | The cliche says that power always corrupts. |
| 0:05.2 | What is seldom said is that power always reveals. |
| 0:09.4 | When a man is climbing, trying to persuade others to give him power, concealment is necessary. |
| 0:15.4 | But as a man obtains more power, camouflage becomes less necessary. |
| 0:21.1 | That's a quote from the American political biographer Robert Caro. |
| 0:25.6 | He was talking about Washington, but the same could be said of Westminster, |
| 0:30.5 | where I've worked as a journalist for almost a decade. |
| 0:37.0 | Over the years, I've heard stories of sexual harassment and bullying. They circulate, |
| 0:43.2 | but rarely come to the surface because powerful people are often protected by the system and by each other. |
| 0:51.8 | In this series so far, we've heard about abuse that goes to the very top |
| 0:57.0 | of government, that remains hidden because in politics, protecting reputations and holding on to |
| 1:04.0 | power often takes precedence over everything else. We've found out what's going on. Now we want to know how it can be stopped. |
| 1:14.6 | We're going in search of some answers. |
| 1:18.9 | I think probably like most reporters in Westminster who cover this subject, I do know a lot more stories than what I could actually publish. |
| 1:31.3 | We don't go out and look for information about individuals, but quite often they will come and tell us, |
| 1:38.3 | or somebody else will tell us, and so we know. |
| 1:41.3 | I have a platform and a voice that I can use |
| 1:45.8 | and I'm determined to use to give other people confidence to speak out. |
| 1:50.1 | This is the time to really make a historic change. |
| 1:52.9 | And Mr Speaker, Lindsay Hoyle, this could be his legacy. |
| 1:56.8 | I'm Liz Bates and from Sky News, this is the open secret. |
| 2:02.0 | Part 3. Looking for answers. |
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