This is the Mother Jones podcast.

I'm Jamila King in New York.

On today's show,

on today's show, what Trump could learn from the only state lawmaker in America who actually lives on the Mexico border.

Touring the scene of a supposed national emergency with a state representative who is, and there's no other way to say this,

tired of Trump's BS. Buckle up.

You're going to Texas with Mother Jones senior reporter Tim Murphy

to speak with a straight-talking Texan who calls it like it is.

One of those characters you're going to want. Texan, who calls it like it is.

One of those characters you're going to want to meet.

Stick around. I bet you didn't know this I certainly didn't. There are more than 7,000 state legislators in the United States,

and all of them, it seems, have an opinion about what to do on the US-Mexico border.

But there's only one who actually lives on the US-Mexico border.

And I mean, right on it.

His backyard literally ends at the banks of the Rio Grande.

He can't just see Mexico from his house.

When the breeze is right, he can hit a golf ball there.

Tim Murphy, Mother Jones reporter.

He's in the studio with us today, and okay, before I get started and before we jump in,

I gotta ask, your gotta ask your shirt, you're sitting across for me right now at this little table in our little studio, and your shirt says West Texas Cloud Appreciation Society.

I love it.

Tell us about it.

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