We have had a major workship in the last five years that is, as I said before, unprecedented

in human history.

It is.

We witness a 50% reduction in projected numbers of young

carpenters wanting trades. What does that mean for home building? What does that

mean for the economy? You know a lot of people feel that we have warning bells ringing right now for the economic implications.

I think there's just like going to be no one to call in five years.

We are living in like easily the strangest time in human history.

Up until a hundred years ago, virtually everybody in the world was engaged in what we now call the trade labor force.

There was no white collar market.

My conversation with Ethan James, the honest carpenter is coming up next.

We're going to dive deep into the challenge with the honest carpenter is coming up next. We're going to dive deep into the

challenge with the carpentry trade and the trades in general. They've been looked

down on for too long. Consequently, young people don't want to go in the trades

and they're beginning to evaporate.

What effect will that have on the economy and so much more?

Here we go.

All right, Ethan, I want to dive into where we stand in carpentry as a trade.

We're going to get into the trades as a whole, but is there a huge, huge lack of talent?

What does it look like right now as a trade and as a professional opportunity?

It's a very good question. As a trade, I would have to say we are at something like a low point

in American history. Maybe I would have to say in

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