Welcome to the Our Head Now's interview.

This is Jasmine Singer.

This is Mary Ann Sullivan.

And we're so happy to welcome Sarah Levy, lawyer, scholar, and PhD candidate at the University

of Oxford Center for Sociolegial Studies and Captain Paul Watson of, of course,

the Captain Paul Watson Foundation, formerly of Greenpeace and the Sea Shepherd Conservation Society,

and no doubt known to you all for his lifelong work on behalf of the animals of the sea,

and for truly his extraordinary TV show, Whale Wars,

these two powerhouses are here to talk about

their incredibly important and truly bold new book,

The Only Flag Worth Flying,

Direct Action and the Enforcement of International Marine Conservation Law.

Welcome to our henhouse, Sarah and Paul.

Oh, thank you.

Thank you so much for having this.

Thank you so much for being here.

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