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The Daily

The Online Search Wars

The Daily

The New York Times

Daily News, News

4.4102.8K Ratings

🗓️ 15 February 2023

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Summary

Microsoft recently released a new version of Bing, its search engine that has long been kind of a punchline in the tech world. The company billed this Bing — which is powered by artificial intelligence software from OpenAI, the maker of the popular chatbot ChatGPT — as a reinvention of how billions of people search the internet. How does that claim hold up? Guest: Kevin Roose, a technology columnist for The New York Times and host of the Times podcast “Hard Fork.”

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0:00.0

From New York Times, I'm Michael Borrow. This is a Daily.

0:07.0

A few days ago, when Microsoft released a new version of its search engine, it claimed

0:17.8

that it would reinvent how billions of people searched the Internet.

0:23.5

Today, Kevin Russe, a tech columnist and co-host of the Times podcast HardFork, on whether

0:32.0

that bold claim might actually be true.

0:38.0

It's Wednesday, February 15th.

0:54.8

Kevin, your judgment, as far as I am concerned, is pretty unaring when it comes to technology.

1:01.0

But a couple of days ago, when you claimed that there was a big breakthrough in how we

1:07.4

used artificial intelligence online, I was very skeptical.

1:11.2

I was skeptical because you had just been on the show two months ago saying, lo and behold,

1:16.0

there has been a big breakthrough in how we use artificial intelligence online.

1:19.3

That's a lot of breakthroughs, maybe one too many.

1:23.0

I'm going to ask you to make your case that something big has happened here.

1:27.0

Please know that if it's not compelling, we don't have an episode.

1:30.3

We need an episode.

1:32.3

Well, I should say, I appreciate your confidence, but I am sort of like an advanced AI chatbot.

1:38.2

I can be occasionally helpful and correct, but also erratic.

1:41.8

So take this off at the grain of salt.

1:46.0

But I do believe we have an episode today because something very big and strange and I think

1:52.2

important is happening in the world of Internet Surgengeons.

1:56.8

Okay.

1:57.8

We'll tell that story, make your argument.

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