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One of the most evident remnants of colonialism on the African continent are laws that I

used to persecute people for their sexual orientation, gender identity and gender expression.

I want to tell you about some sections of the Pinot Code from my home country, Kenya.

In 162A and C of the Pinot Code, say that it is a felony for any person to have kind of

knowledge of any other person against the order of nature or to permit a male person to have

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