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Hi friends and welcome to the papaya podcast.

I'm your hostess, Trin Hermostis, Sarah Nicole.

And each week I'm going to be dishing out some sweetness mixed in with some seeds of wisdom or something like that.

So get ready to get inspired, get candid, get real, because we are all in this digital

space together.

Nicole Brianne, welcome back.

You are one of the most memorable podcast guests of all time.

You know I still, like, that podcast changed my life and the way you've heard me on, like,

so many different things.

And I'm like, my friend Nicole said this to me once.

I feel very honored.

All the time.

It was just you are an incredible person.

You, for those of you that don't know, Nicole shared her

story of divorce and grieving love in that way and processing through that. And today we're

here for a different reason. You shared a recent Instagram about friendship, separation. I call it, I've had friend divorce is how I've labeled it.

Separation, ending of relationship, pause of relationship, whatever happens, a new season of

friendship. And I thought this, you were the person that I needed to have this conversation with

because I feel like friend divorce or separation or

breakups or pause, it's so untalked about and there's so much shame in it. And it's almost,

there was a point in my life where I said friend divorce was harder for me than any romantic

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