I'm Adam Manus. And I'm Peter Martin. And this is the Yule here at podcast. Daily Jazz

advice. Coming to you.

Coming to you.

You're getting like kind of sweeter and sweeter on that. It used to be like, Daily Jazz Advice coming at you. Yeah, but I mean, you know, I love our listeners. What can I say? I love our listeners. All right, what are we talking about today? That's a good question. I thought, oh, we were going to talk about, you tell them.

Oh, the one right way to learn jazz.

Yeah. Um, that's a good question. I thought, oh, we were going to talk about, you tell them. Oh, the one right way to learn jazz. Yeah, we have one right way to learn jazz. This is, this has controversy written all over it. Ooh, it's going to be good. So, Peter, what is the one right way to learn jazz? Uh, well, Of course. Yeah, that makes sense. I really think it is. I mean, that's, I mean, if we were to boil it down to one, which we kind of boxed ourselves in with this title. Yeah, yeah. Wait, didn't we just do an episode on, hey, you need to listen more? Yes are reiterating it we talk about it because

it's important the folks need to hear it we believe it we're being honest

about it and organic I mean this is where it's at that's the way to to learn jazz

and I mean everything else is kind of window dressing it's it's interesting to talk

about to think about to look at scales arggios, all this other kind of stuff.

But there's always an element of listening, I think.

So what do you think about these folks who get very dogmatic about, you know, one, like, you know, the Barry Harris method or, you know the Berkeley method or whatever to learn jazz or just

go yeah I mean that's though those kind of one way to learn jazz I don't believe there is one

way to learn jazz right unless it's listen but listen actually encapsulates all those different

ways to learn right um so I don't think I think that sometimes we want to make ourselves feel

better by saying, okay, I'm with this camp. I, you know, like in basketball, I run the triangle

offense only. That's the only thing I do because that's the greatest offense ever. Well, if you have

the, if you have Michael Jordan and Scotty Pippen and Steve Kerr on the right thing, it can be the greatest. So, you know, if you're listening and you're watching, you're paying attention, then you can find out. I mean, those ones you're talking about, I don't even know, I mean, I kind of know the Barry Harris system now. Yeah. I love Barry Harris, but I didn't learn the Barry Harris system as people talk about it now, but I still figured out how to play this music, the Berkeley system. I didn't learn that. But I did listen to a lot of probably the same things that they would recommend you being able to play, or at least it would get you there. Yeah, that's why when I hear people say like, oh, this is, you know, everybody's learning the wrong way or this is the wrong thing to learn. I'm like, well, why? It's,

you know, music is still getting made somehow. Exactly. You know what I mean? Good music is still getting made. People are figuring stuff out. Just, it's, it's, there's, I don't think there's one right way of anything. There's one, you know, maybe there's, there's several schools of thought on things. But for sure, if you keep your ears open and you go with, I think the key is, going with what hits you.

Yeah. You know, don't do it because other people are like, oh, yeah, you go to check out this, you know, one system of doing things. Yeah. Do it if that sound reaches you, you know, and pulls you in. Yeah, and that's, look, that's going to be a moving target as it should be. Of course. Like, yeah. Yeah, what you know, what you hear, but you have to go through that process of

curating how you want to sound. And it's going to be different when you're 20 than when you're 40

and when you're 60 and it should be. But there should be also, if you are listening and paying

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