The One About Diversity, Race & Gaslighting With Avery Francis
The Papaya Podcast
The Papaya Podcast
4.8 • 1.6K Ratings
🗓️ 15 June 2020
⏱️ 41 minutes
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Summary
You may have seen Avery Francis pop up in your friend’s instagram stories or newsfeeds because in just a week’s time, Avery’s work has gained massive attention and tens of thousands of new followers. But the story doesn’t begin or end there. Avery is a mixed-race Black woman with expertise in Diversity & Inclusion, while also being a serial entrepreneur. However, this didn’t stop her from being gaslighted in the workplace, by a white woman. In order to gain understanding on things like microaggressions, gaslighting, race & privilege, it can be helpful to hear the experiences first hand. Avery is here to share her story.
Follow Avery Francis on IG @AveryFrancis. Founder of @BuildWithBloom & @JoinSundayShowers.
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| 0:00.0 | The following podcast is a dear media production. |
| 0:05.5 | Hi friends and welcome to the papaya podcast. |
| 0:10.1 | I'm your hostess, Try and Hermostis, Sarah Nicole. |
| 0:13.1 | And each week I'm going to be dishing out some sweetness mixed in with some seeds of wisdom or something like that. |
| 0:20.7 | So get ready to get inspired, get candid, |
| 0:23.2 | get real, because we are all in this digital space together. All right, everyone, welcome |
| 0:32.4 | back. I'm really excited about today's guest because we met in a pretty unconventional way. Avery |
| 0:38.9 | Francis, this is our guest today. And her and I met because we, I think we just followed each |
| 0:43.8 | other online. And at one point, we've talked about calling in before, but she actually called me in on the |
| 0:48.2 | fact that I was speaking a lot at events that were incredibly whitewash. And since then, |
| 0:54.1 | she saw that I could do great things, |
| 0:56.9 | but more wanted to invest in that in a really tangible way. And we ended up having so many |
| 1:02.0 | amazing conversations, ended up changing the way I took on speaking engagements, and really just |
| 1:07.9 | grew into so many learning lessons along the way. And so I'm really excited to bring her on today |
| 1:13.9 | to have some like really good conversation. So Avery, welcome. Hi. Thank you. Thanks for having me today. |
| 1:21.9 | I'm so stoked. It's funny. I will never forget the day that you sent me that message. And I was like, I don't know, because we'd been so |
| 1:29.5 | friendly. So it just felt like when we hear any type of even constructive criticism, everything inside of |
| 1:34.8 | us just like your hair just stands and your just back goes up and you're ready. And I remember I |
| 1:40.5 | looked at it at a stoplight, which I should not have been doing. But it forced me to put my |
| 1:44.6 | phone down and I was like, no, can't. And I can't even. I have to process this. And through that point |
| 1:51.0 | from that stoplight to being home, gave me so much time to digest and put my reputation aside, |
| 1:57.8 | put all my defensiveness aside and listen. And I'm so glad I did. I'm so glad that I was |
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