The Olive Leaf Network: Public Testimony to the Parliament of Victoria on Children in Cults and High-demand Religious Groups with Psychologist Maria Esguerra
Cults, Culture & Coercion with Dr. Steve Hassan
Dr. Steven Hassan
4.7 • 843 Ratings
🗓️ 20 April 2026
⏱️ 62 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Hi, I'm Dr. Steven Hassan, cult expert, |
| 0:07.0 | director of Freedom of Mind Resources. |
| 0:10.0 | And I've been looking forward to a follow-up conversation |
| 0:16.0 | with Dr. Maria Ascera, who was actually interviewed |
| 0:20.0 | for my podcast. |
| 0:21.6 | Maria is a psychologist from Australia. |
| 0:25.5 | Very, very, you know, I'm a fan of hers. |
| 0:30.3 | She was born and raised in one of the worst cults, the children of God, |
| 0:35.6 | and has been especially interested as a second-gen person herself, |
| 0:42.3 | but also as children that were raised in the group with issues of that. |
| 0:47.9 | And she is a golden communicator. |
| 0:51.7 | She's doing all kinds of things, including testifying at a parliamentary |
| 0:57.7 | investigation into cults in Australia. You've co-founded the Olive Leaf Network down under as well. |
| 1:09.2 | Your autism and disabilities expert, what am I missing? Tell us more |
| 1:15.0 | about you, Maria. Thanks, Steve. Thanks for having me on. It's lovely to chat with you again online. |
| 1:23.3 | Of course, we chat regularly, privately, which is something I really appreciate about you that |
| 1:30.1 | even if someone has sort of different thoughts or opinions, you're really open to them usually. |
| 1:36.4 | And I'm the same as you. |
| 1:38.0 | I really believe in open dialogue is really important. |
| 1:41.6 | And I think, yeah, we don't want to sort of get into those |
| 1:45.7 | groups think you know thoughts within this field as well which we can get into I |
| 1:51.9 | think it's really important that there is the difference of opinions and different |
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