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The Oldest Trick

On the Media

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🗓️ 2 December 2022

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

An ancient scapegoat for society’s woes is back in the news. On this week’s On the Media, a deeper look at the confusing landscape of modern anti-semitism. Plus, a conversation with some of the dogged reporters who spent years uncovering the truth behind the 2014 Malaysia Airlines crash in Ukraine.

1. Leo Ferguson [@LeoFergusonnyc], the Director of Strategic Projects for the Jews for Racial & Economic Justice, on the rise of modern anti-Semitism. Listen.

2. Aric Toler [@AricToler], Director of Research and Training at Bellingcat, an investigative news outlet, and Roman Dobrokhotov [@Dobrokhotov], the Founder and Editor-in-Chief of The Insider, a Russian investigative online news outlet, on what it took to uncover the truth behind the 2014 Malaysia Airlines crash in eastern Ukraine. Listen.

3. Christo Grozev [@christogrozev], the lead Russia investigator with Bellingcat, about how he uncovered the real identity of a Russian "sleeper" agent who went by the name Maria Adela. Listen.

Transcript

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0:00.0

A strange cast of characters is bringing a very old form of prejudice back to the media main stage.

0:08.0

Dinkwint S.D.A. and Trump is like a perk to encapsulation of the messy, confusing landscape of anti-Semitism that we've been experiencing for the past few years.

0:19.0

From WNYC in New York, this is on the media. I'm Brooke Gladstone.

0:23.0

This week, a peak into how a special class of investigative journalists solved some of their trickiest cases, from finding those behind a plane crash that killed 300 people in 2014.

0:36.0

It makes 17 us unique in a sense that there's a very, very long digital footprint.

0:42.0

To the identity of a Russian agent who charmed away on two NATO's social scene.

0:47.0

Whenever Maria walked into a room, men stood up, and no woman would let Maria with their husband or partner alone.

0:56.0

It's all coming up after this.

1:00.0

From WNYC in New York, this is on the media. I'm Brooke Gladstone.

1:06.0

There's a variety of maladies that everlastingly eat away at the American project. Racism, sexism, xenophobia, homophobia, to name a few. They flare up on and off the front page, given the politics of the day.

1:22.0

And this week's ism, or phobia, is another hearty perennial.

1:27.0

Former president Donald Trump is defending himself against a Republican backlash over his recent dinner with two known anti-Semites. Trump posted white nationalist and Holocaust denier Nick Fuente's at Mar-a-Lago last week along with the rapper Yeh for my known as Kanye West.

1:44.0

Trump claimed not to know who Fuente was, blaming Yeh for the inclusion. But that actually was the work of Milo Yanopoulos, or so he claims.

1:54.0

Formerly a bright-bart, Yanopoulos resigned under pressure after a video of him seeming to endorse pedophilia emerged. And now he serves apparently as Yeh's unofficial campaign manager.

2:07.0

He told NBC that the dinner time retinue he had assembled, chided Trump for betraying his true loyalists, the January 6th, by putting no money toward their defense.

2:19.0

That Trump was good enough to run for vice, but was pasted as president. The top job apparently belongs to Yeh. Milo says Yeh is finally giving voice to what everybody already knows.

2:32.0

Everyone on the balls all the power of the platform to say before someone who's prepared to lose everything.

2:38.0

Yeah, just as huge, yeah. Like it's never happened before.

2:42.0

Someone with the courage to blame everything he hates on the Jews. On Thursday, Yeh sat down with Alex Jones in an hour's long conversation where he said things that even made the man who denied the reality of the Sandy Hook massacre uncomfortable.

2:58.0

That's right, you're not Hitler, you're not a Nazi, you don't deserve to be called that a demonized.

3:03.0

Well, I see good things about Hitler also.

3:09.0

Then he said something kind of in coherent about loving everybody. Maybe Jews I couldn't tell and then concluded every human being has something of value that they brought to the table, especially Hitler.

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