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The Political Orphanage

The Old Political Order Is Dying: Stephen Davies on the Great Realignment

The Political Orphanage

Andrew Heaton

Politics, Comedy, News

4.91000 Ratings

🗓️ 27 May 2026

⏱️ 81 minutes

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Summary

"Leftwing" and "Rightwing" don't mean the same thing anymore–the battle lines are redrawing. The twentieth century was about economics: low taxes or big government. The twenty-first century will be a fight over something else.

Historian and political theorist Stephen Davies joins to discuss his book "The Great Realignment" and the reshaping Western politics, and the collapse of the old left-right order.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to the political orphanage, a home for plucky misfits and problem solvers.

0:13.7

I'm your host, Andrew Heaton, probably doomed to be politically homeless in any time or place, but particularly in our era.

0:22.6

In large part, because we find ourselves in the middle of a great political realignment.

0:28.6

Many people who came of age in the 20th century and understood their corner of a given political coalition

0:34.6

now have the unsettling experience of feeling their coalition

0:39.0

shift and break apart right under their feet. Republicans and Democrats who used to hate each other

0:44.7

are now to their mutual bafflement bedfellows, while erstwhile allies within the major parties

0:51.8

are pulling the knives out for each other. We are living in the

0:55.2

midst of a great realignment, but not the first. If we were arguing about politics in the 1780s,

1:02.9

we weren't arguing about capitalism or socialism. Economics was of secondary import to governance.

1:13.4

Are you in favor of modernizing the state,

1:19.3

giving the power of the aristocracy to Republican government, curtailing the king, defanging the power of bishops? Or are you on the side of the ancient regime and protecting the old

1:25.2

institutions, hierarchies, and privileges from modernity and chaos.

1:30.8

By the 19th century, modernity had won out. The debate was no longer the Enlightenment versus

1:37.0

the ancient regime. In the United States, it was about slavery. Your position on tariffs, tax

1:43.3

rates, infrastructure spending, women's rights,

1:46.6

public education, these were all of secondary import to the singular division of the day, slavery.

1:53.6

In the 20th century, around the world, the defining division became economics. Do you want a free market and private enterprise or the

2:03.8

state to control the heights of industry? That was the relevant primary organizing principle of

2:10.3

politics during my childhood. What balance of capitalism and individual action against socialism

2:16.3

and regulation do you want?

2:18.9

Consider for a moment all the other things which did not constitute your position on the

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