The Old Man and the CIA, Part 1: American Gestapo | Historical

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4.6 • 2.9K Ratings

🗓️ 6 November 2023

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

Some men make headlines. Others make history. A subtle few mold the future of nations in their image - and you'd never even know it. In this 2-part True Spies miniseries, journalist and author of The Devil's Chessboard, David Talbot, joins Sophia Di Martino to uncover a hidden history of the United States. A history penned by a man who made an outsized impact on the way we live today - Allen Dulles. In Part 1, Talbot documents the rise of the CIA's longest-serving director - and the first civilian to hold the post. From SPYSCAPE, the home of secrets. A Cup And Nuzzle production. Series producer: Joe Foley. Produced by Frank Palmer. Music by Nick Ryan.

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0:00.0	Content warning. This episode contains references to suicide.
0:05.0	Incoming transmission.
0:07.0	Welcome.
0:10.0	Welcome.
0:11.0	This is true spies, the podcast that takes you deep inside the greatest secret
0:18.2	missions of all time. Week by week you'll hear the true stories behind the operations that have shaped the world we live in
0:27.2	True spies. You'll meet the people who live life under cover.
0:39.2	What do they know? What are their skills? And what would you do in their position? This is true spies.
0:43.0	Truman created the CIA in 1947, and he says he does not want the CIA to be, quote, an American
0:50.1	Gestapo.
0:51.5	He does not want them going around
0:53.3	filming crews overthrowing governments assassinating people and that was
0:58.8	the vision that Alan Dulls had. I'm Sophia D Martino and this is True Spies from Spiescape Studios.
1:07.0	The Old Man and the CIA Part 1 American Gestapo.
1:15.0	There were two paths that America could have gone on after World War II.
1:22.0	Franklin Roosevelt and could have gone on after World War II.
1:23.0	Franklin Roosevelt and high-level aides of his pointed the path towards one way, which was
1:30.0	America would lead the world through diplomacy and attempt to bring the Civil Union into its
1:35.8	orbit through diplomatic goodwill and through economic and financial mechanisms.
1:41.1	That was one vision.
1:43.0	Indulge me for a second.
1:46.0	In an exercise of the imagination.
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