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The Remnant with Jonah Goldberg

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🗓️ 17 April 2020

⏱️ 74 minutes

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Summary

The vox populi has been heard, so we went with a listener-suggested guest on this episode of The Remnant. Kyle Harper is an incredibly knowledgeable historian of the Roman Empire who specializes in the origins of Christianity, but that doesn’t quite do him justice. As Jonah (or, Jonas Magnus) discovers, he’s effectively a polymath who knows about everything from the gnostics to the history of infectious disease - which is, uh, convenient? Watch out for his Oklahoma nationalism, though; he might be trying to annex the rest of the country. Show Notes: -The deep human history of respiratory viruses -Kyle’s latest book, The Fate of Rome -Hunter-gatherers as the “original affluent society” -Romans were short -Calvin Coolidge’s son -Tacitus: “they make a desert and call it peace.” -Michael Munger on EconTalk, speaking to the ideological history of slavery -Jamelle Bouie’s argument about the Enlightenment and racism -“Climate essentialism” in Hippocrates -Let’s all move to Oklahoma -DoorDash, promo code REMNANT for $5 off, and zero delivery fees for the first month

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0:00.0	Greetings, dear listeners. This is Jonah Goldberg, host of the Remnant Podcast, brought to you by the
0:29.6	Dispatch and Dispatch Media. Go to the Dispatch.com to sign up for newsletters to see original
0:37.3	web content including a really great piece by a Remnant favorite, Lyman Stone. He has a piece going
0:45.5	after the World Health Organization and why it really does deserve a lot of the blame that it's
0:51.3	getting and a lot of criticism that it's getting. Oh, and so today's episode of The Remnant is
0:57.9	brought to you by our friends at DoorDash, more about them in a little bit. So today we have a guest
1:06.4	that I've only been introduced to fairly recently. He came to us by way of suggestion from a listener.
1:17.1	We get suggestions from listeners a lot for guests on the show, but usually I'm familiar with their stuff
1:25.0	or friends with them or enemies with them or something like that. And this one was a really great
1:32.0	suggestion. And please if you guys have suggestions for outside the box guests we're eager to have them.
1:39.5	Today's guest on the Remnant is Dr. Kyle Harper. He is professor of classics and letters and senior
1:46.4	vice president and provost at the University of Oklahoma. Dr. Harper's research is focused on the
1:53.2	social and economic history of the period spanning in the Roman Empire and the early Middle Ages.
1:57.7	He has great piece of time about pandemics and plagues and their effect on history. His most recent
2:04.0	book is from 2017 and it's The Fate of Rome Climate Disease and the End of an Empire. Dr. Harper,
2:13.7	who I'll now start calling Kyle. Welcome to The Remnant. Thanks for having me, Jonas.
2:17.8	Privilege to be here. Excited to talk and great to meet you. I'll thank my buddy Justin who put us in touch.
2:24.8	Yes, all praise and honor to Justin for setting this up. And I didn't want, I didn't know if he
2:32.3	would want to be named, but since he's an old friend of yours, if he didn't want to be named,
2:36.4	you're the guy who got it. I'm going to roll that. Yeah, so let's sort of start. We're going to do
2:41.6	our due diligence on the COVID stuff and all that, but you actually are, you had a really
2:48.3	interesting piece in time in time magazine about epidemics and their role in history and all of that
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