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Bribe, Swindle or Steal

The Oil-for-Food Scheme

Bribe, Swindle or Steal

Alexandra Addison-Wrage of TRACE International

Business, News, Business News

4.9582 Ratings

🗓️ 30 January 2019

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

David Montero discusses his new book "Kickback" and tells the story of how Saddam Hussein found collaborators willing to help him thwart the purpose of the Oil-for-food program and prop up his thuggish regime.

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0:00.0

Welcome back to the podcast, bribe, swindle, or steel.

0:11.4

I'm Alexandra Rogge, and today we're talking about what the New York Times called the

0:15.7

largest bribery scheme and the history of the world.

0:19.1

My guest is David Montero, an investigative journalist and author

0:22.2

of a new book that provides a great survey of the international bribery landscape, kickback

0:27.8

exposing the global corporate bribery network. David, thank you for joining me. Thank you so much

0:33.7

for having me. Your book is divided into fairly discrete chapters, each on a really interesting topic.

0:40.0

But I thought we could focus today on the chapter called Money Boxes. It has a great opening scene.

0:46.1

Perhaps you can recount the story, which also explains the title of the chapter for listeners.

0:51.5

The chapter opens with two sergeants in the U.S. military who've just

0:56.7

landed in Baghdad, Iraq, after the U.S. invasion in 2003, and they have taken up a position

1:04.3

in an old palace of Saddam Hussein's, and they have to do their daily sort of security check.

1:11.2

And I actually spoke to one of them whose name is Kenneth Buff, and he sort of described

1:16.1

that, you know, they were way over their heads when they arrived in Iraq, and really were

1:20.8

just trying to get familiar with this place that they'd blitzed through.

1:24.8

And so they're doing their daily rounds, and they notice that on this very

1:28.9

luxurious estate are all these strange-looking little cottages. So they start walking by, and

1:35.4

they notice that one in particular has been all walled up with cinder blocks. And they think,

1:41.4

hmm, that's sort of strange. And of course, everyone in the U.S. military at this

1:46.0

point had been given the mandate that they needed to look for weapons of mass destruction,

1:51.0

because that's, after all, why we had invaded Iraq in 2003 with the belief that Saddam Hussein

1:57.3

was in possession of these weapons. So they thought these two sergeants, well,

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