Hello and welcome back to Close Reeds here on the Close Reeds Podcast Network. I am David Kern,

and I am joined by old friends Heidi White and Tim McIntosh, Heidi and Tim. How's it going? Welcome back to the show.

Thanks, David. Thanks. It's going great. How are you, David? I'm well. We are here to discuss

books nine and ten. I had there is a fly flying into my face

repeatedly as I'm trying to do this intro. So I am also on a Odyssey that is going to

be a journey of the soul because there's no way for a fly to get out of this room. So we're here

to discuss books nine and of The Odyssey.

We are going to be using Emily Wilson's translation.

If you have not been paying attention in the last few weeks,

but thought,

I really like books nine and ten.

Let it be known to you that while we discuss this,

the text we will be referring to is Emily Wilson's recent translation.

Before we dive into that, though,

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away, because I have a question, I need some help. And you two are, well, I was going to say

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