Hello friends, thanks for listening to today's episode.

Before it begins, we want to let you know that this episode includes

discussion of loss, grief, and pregnancy.

So if you're not in a place to hear that right now,

we totally understand.

Thank you so much for being here.

This is Sarah Stewart Holland.

And this is Beth Silver's.

You're listening to the Newance Life, a

Pantsuit Politics Production. Thank you so much for joining us today for another episode of our limited return of the nuanced life.

We're down to the final two episodes in this series. It's really been fun for us to make.

We hope that you have enjoyed it as much as we have. We've loved

commemorating your big and small moments and today we're going to commemorate a bit from

our own lives. Two episodes back we talked about caregiving and sometimes it's easy to kind of park there

when we're thinking about older members in our family to just center the conversation

on the difficulties of supporting the last years of their lives.

But there is so much more to them and so much more to those relationships.

So today we want to celebrate older women in our lives.

Sarah is going to share a conversation she had with her grandmother,

her Mima, who is in her 80s,

and still living a very active life in Paducah.

Mima is so much fun to be around. It is the kind of conversation

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